Stiggy Wiggy,
Sorry to hear you want to leave and I wish you would stay.

If I am one of the reasons you have decided to leave then please send me a private message and I will try and evaluate myself.

I think I understand some of your views.
I certainly agree with some of them.
I have been guilty of banning people but with just cause I believe, normally after kicking them for 0 mins and then they return and start abusing or TKing me or other clan members. I think I give the pubbers a fair trial and respect.

And now for a small 'vent' not ventrillo!

I also think you are trying to say that some people in the clan are 'power mad'.
With this I tend to agree. Some members treat servers as their own and try to say what should be played on them.
To me server 1 is a public server and should be left as public TDM server and not changed at the whim of a le person or two.
Server 2 is also a public server but is reserved for the clan for practice and as such if people want to play other than TDM they should lock server 2 down and play whatever they like.
It was easier with 3 servers.
I have seen Server 1 being used (as you say) for snipers only, knives only or changed to S&D.
This is just arrogance and ignorance.
I have even been kicked off a server by a GOA who wanted to play knives only on server 1, which to say the least, pissed me off enourmously. I dont like donating towards servers to then get kicked off them!
Also members are guilty of rotating the map quickly not giving gamers a chance to change class.
These actions are not acceptable if we are to remain a cohesive clan and they must cease.

GOAs and clan members if the above offends you and you wish me to leave then let me know and I will hand back my tags. My father taught me to live life with honour, truth and integrity which I try to do to uphold his name.
We are at risk of being members of a server and not a clan.
Lets get our shit straight before we implode!!

Ronnie no one is going to ask you to leave because you voice your opinion. I would love to know who kicked you, I'm pretty sure it wasn't me as I hate using knives.

As for server 1 being left as TDM I totally disagree. I don't see the harm in changing the server to snd for a few maps. And to say go to server 2 to play snd, well if its empty it's going to be a pretty boring game.
And if I'm honest that is a big part of the reason I haven't really been making much of an effort to get online, I'm so bored of constant TDM on the same maps

As for Stig and Helba leaving, I'm sorry to see it happen. I feel I played well with use and got on well with you both on a personal level.
I do however see exactly where you're coming from, I was here for a good while with the old GOAs and the teamwork and respect was unbelievable. It wasn't due to fear of being kicked or whatever, its hard to explain, but the respect was just there.

I think it was java who made the kick, every now and then even the pubbers like a little change, quite often we ask if people would like shotguns only or snipers only etc etc, quite a lot say yes and we go by a majority vote.

Yep it was me. Sorry it offended you but it goes back to the respect rule. We as a whole in server 1 had decided that day at that point in time what the rules of that particular round were going to be. There was a choice to play by the rules, sit out and spectate for a round, or disrespect us as a whole and be kicked. A clan is only as good as the rules it is founded upon. I respect you for bringing it out into the open to be discussed. I respect you as a fellow clan member who can play the hell out of a game. I am very strong on the rules though. Without rules there is only chaos. We have been easy as far as some rules go. When the original GOA's were in (office) they called for RESPECT FOR EVERYONE, NO MARTYRDOM, NO LAST STAND, NO GRENADE LAUNCHERS, and they also said for there to be a 3 warning rule. Many have strayed away from these rules and tend to play in this clan and on the servers as if they are their own army of one. I do not call for anyone to step down or quit but if following rules is that hard I will not stop anyone.

Alright, You Sorry Sacks...

I finally got some time to figured out, read and post this...So, WTF is going on with all this turmoil?

I joined this clan because I enjoy playing with bunch of mature guys and gals, with whom I like to believe I have developed some friendships.

As you are all aware, I'm not all that tech-savvy and such, but, I took the time to join the clan because of the quality of its members. While I did notice some changes that has happened since I've been a member, I enjoy seeing all the players when I come on the server. Ultimately, that is what makes this server distict from others.

In any case, whatever the problems are, I hope we can resolve them as adults and continue to have fun and enjoy each others company. Besides, if was you, STIG, who originally recruited me into this clan. Now, GITSUM, you sorry sac.

I remember this too, Stig, and I miss it too. Check for a PM from me.

Again Chris, shysh. You guys would come onto Server 1 and be like "let's play snd!" without asking anybody. You'd switch it and then all the pubbers would leave. Besides, that's what Server 2 was there for anyway! So what if it's empty? Play with your clanmates! Unless you're that pathetic that you have to tea-off on the pubbers to drive them away. Not only that but you'd keep it on there until you guys got off the computer!

And Stig who are you trying to kid? You call our clan pathetic yet all your clan has is EVERYBODY from S.S. And whenever I go onto yours, its empty AND laggy as all hell. So I don't wanna hear SHIT from you.

Making up for time lost eh rich? oldish topic now hehe